Sunday, July 6, 2014
Some PC Gamers Need To Just Shut Up About PS4
Killzone Shadow: Fall is GG's PS4 title using only 1.GB of VRAM - PS4 has 8 to spare.

Some PC Gamers Need To Just Shut Up About PS4

I’m annoyed.

Never thought much of PC gaming. Though I never had anything against the group, (or anyone for that matter) I simply was never enticed by the platform for games since I mostly use it for others things. You know, things like working on my website, sending email back and forth – and you know… using the internet – stuff like that. The personal computer is a beast, the best piece of invention we’ve ever had and we thank God for it, right? Yes. Some of the people who play videogames on it, though, I can’t stand them now… not since the announcement of PS4 at least, when suddenly they started coming out of the woodwork with insulting lingo directed towards Sony’s new console, PlayStation 4.

On almost every website you venture, every forum you scan, every topic where PlayStation 4 is being discussed, these “gamers” find their way there and start talking elitist crap like, “oh, whatever, PS4 is weaker than my two-year old PC”, or totally uninformed rubbish like “ah, Crysis 3 looks better than anything PS4 will be able to produce”. They even go further, talking up trash about consoles on a whole, saying PC is where “true” gaming is, and soon consoles will be abolished. All irrelevant talk, to be sure, but it’s irked me to a point of explosion. If your platform is better, there’s no need to make a case for it… If indeed true gaming is on PC, console gamers, by the millions, would have jumped on board already – but it’s simply not. PC gaming isn’t as popular as these jokers would have you believe.

PS4's Infamous: Second Son - in-game footage

PS4′s Infamous: Second Son – in-game footage

Why do you think almost every popular game there is sell the most units on consoles? Yes, almost every game that’s released multiplatform see a huge disparity in sales, with the least sold units being on PC. Why is that? Why is it that one of PC’s biggest franchise, Crysis 2, sold more units on PS3 and Xbox 360 (not combined sales, rather per console) than it did on PC? It’s because the platform is not as popular as these elitist would have you believe!

Crysis 2 PC

Crysis 2 PS3

Crysis 2 Xbox 360

See what I mean? The biggest PC franchise does a shameful 600,000 units lifetime sales, while PS3 and Xbox 360 both hit over 1 million…

… Let’s look at The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim. It’s a game PC gamers swear was made solely for their platform, however it’s also on PS3 and Xbox 360.

Skyrim PS3 – 4.47 Million Units Sold

Skyrim Xbox 360 – 7.04 million Units Sold

Skyrim PC – 2.75 Million Units Sold

How the hell are developers supposed to think of the PC market as the best thing since watermelon when multiplatform games on consoles constantly, utterly, outsell the platform? Why? Because games look better on there? Speaking of which…

Killzone: Shadow Fall In-game footage

Killzone: Shadow Fall In-game footage

… These PC elitists, if they wish to spend thousands of dollars on a PC rig, that’s good for them, but most gamers don’t have all that cash to spend trying to make games look better with expensive chips, and even if they did, I suspect it’s not a top priority. You must have a certain type of setup to enjoy PC to the max. Most gamers are in their 30s, and a lot of them have wives or girlfriends and children. They can’t change their bedroom into some geeky-looking underworld bunker. That won’t fly by a woman! Furthermore, they rather play on their couch, and would sometimes like to get their women and children into the fun (Vice-versa also, as there are as many girl gamers as there are guys).

But even the arguments about two-year old PCs being more powerful than the PlayStation 4 isn’t accurate. In fact, it’s a gross exaggeration. Listen to what an avowed PC fan, who’s built rigs for people, but who also has sense had to say about the whole argument PC gamers have been making concerning the power, or lack thereof of PlayStation 4. It’s the best article I’ve read on the matter by far. Below is an excerpt, but I’d encourage to read the full thing:

Now we hear a lot about how the PS4′s specs don’t match up to current PC’s. That what was demoed doesn’t look as gorgeous as Crysis 3 on max settings. I get that, I can understand where they are coming from, I’ve been gaming on a PC all of my life. I’ve played the Decents, Heretics, Dooms, 7th Guests, Wing Commanders, X-Wing and Tie Fighters (where is a sequel at?), every game LucasArts, Valve, Blizzard, and id Software have put out. I have also done all of these on custom built computers that either myself or my dad has put together. Hell I was taught how to install RAM and remove the BIOS battery before riding a bike. However, in all of this, I think there are some unfair comparisons being made. So far there is not a direct way of purchasing a similarly designed system. There is not an 8 core APU for purchase. Most people are just running a quad core setup. Not to mention the PS4 has a second chip for background processes that helps take even more load off the APU. There is no memory available to purchase that provides the same speed as the PS4. Sure you might have 16 GB of DDR3 for your system and 3 GB of GDDR5 for your video, but it’s not the same as the PS4′s unified 8 GB of GDDR5 clocked at 176 GB/s for system and video. Comparatively non-overclocked DDR3-1333 for PC’s transfer data at 10.7 GB/s. Also, unless you’ve built a completely new computer in the last 6 months, you’re probably not running a complete PCI Express 3.0 Setup. Meaning your MOBO, CPU, and GPU all have to be equipped with it. This means your bus speeds could be aiding in the bottlenecking of your system. Even still PCI 3.0 can’t compete with the bus speeds within an APU. I’m not saying that the PS4 is the end all be all machine, but it might be better equipped than it is given credit for. They also have a clear advantage of being able to write to the metal. There is no cumbersome OS or layers that a typical system has to work through. PC development also has to think about the least common factor when developing a title. It doesn’t make sense for a developer just to build a game for the 10%. Not everyone owns a GTX 680 and even comparably that is a card with 2GB of RAM at $500. That alone will probably be more than the price of Sony’s new console. To build a similar spec’d PC you may need to consider the greater sum of it’s parts than low balling it. I helped a friend build a computer last month and he had a budget of around $1100 (the link for parts can be found here.) and I’ll go out on a limb and say that the PS4 still has a distinct edge.

So even a huge PC fan, one who has actual knowledge of how these things work, has sided with PlayStation 4, reckoning that it has a “distinct edge” on the most up-to-date PC rig out there.

I could go on and on, but This is enough. PC gamers need to just shut up already. Go back to your setup and play your games. Because all this hate is annoying, and shows what you really think about console gamers.

We are all people looking to have fun enjoying our favorite pastime. There’s no need for all the stupid ‘my 2yr old PC is more powerful than your new PS4″ shots, especially when it is a blatant lie.

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  • Sean Hayden

    Cool, so can you play Rome II on Extreme with that 4 year old hardware? No, you cannot.

    PS4 is native 1080p. If you believe otherwise and can prove it, go sue Sony for fraud. You shouldn’t be afraid doing it, because you’re right, right?

    Xbox One is 720p upscaled to 1080p. Don’t put both consoles in the same boat because they’re not the same thing at all.

  • Strudelhouse

    On the contrary, voice commands have been around on PCs for YEARS. I can provide you a link to Google, if you need assistance with that.

    “PC gaming sales are dying”
    Are you referring to games? Components? Computers? Etc. Gotta elaborate here fellah.

  • Strudelhouse

    Time travel is a blast, you should try it.

    Word to the wise though: If you’re religious, avoid verifying Christ. It doesn’t turn out the way you expect. ;)

  • Strudelhouse

    “With mouse and keyboard, you get aiming precision, but have you
    considered that your movement has zero variation, you are either walking
    forward or not.”

    Um, what?

    Also, on a side note, mouse pads are not required. Most people use them out of habit anymore.

  • Strudelhouse

    You have a Dell from 2001 that still works? O.o

  • Strudelhouse

    Most of those ‘elitists’ are children. Ever played an online game on a console? Hear all those kids raging over nothing? Same group of people.

  • Strudelhouse

    It’s pirate, and a majority of us pay for games. If we didn’t, PC gaming would be dead by now.

  • Strudelhouse

    Sigh, a few people pirate, and suddenly every pc gamer is a pirate.

  • Strudelhouse

    He doesn’t speak for all of us. ._.

  • Strudelhouse

    Hundreds of hardware?

    In my current computer, I have:
    HDD, RAM, Chip, Water Cooling, Video Card, Motherboard, PSU, CD-ROM. That’s like, what, 8 things? I could be forgetting something, I’m kind of tired.

    Sorry, that’s a bit off from hundreds. If you’re referring to hundreds of options to choose FROM, you bet your sweet ass we enjoy that.

    Console owners tend to forget they have to buy a TV also.

  • Strudelhouse

    Ooo, let’s not forget about TV upgrade cost. Most PCG’s include their monitor when they name their overall cost.

  • Devilbot_anurag

    Man you know crap about pc :D have fun with your console but i would like to point out one thing now days the games are increasing more and more on consoles not becoz there are more gamers on it but becoz its not easy to play a pirated game on it…

    its just a matter of monopoly

    and its good but people like you who say stuff like that for a pc…. hilarious cant stop laughing..

    i dont understand why you had to make a thread specially after

    i quote

    “but it’s irked me to a point of explosion. If your platform is better, there’s no need to make a case for it…”

    you made a case of it :D

    man seriously you have no idea what you are talking about and fyi have you really ever a played on a pc seriously rigged by a gamer for games purposes only not your “other stuffs…. bla bla that you can do on a android these days :D

  • Devilbot_anurag

    he made his point go play on console…..

    ” YOU CAN PLAY VIDEO GAMES ON YOUR PC WITH A CONTROLLER, ON A COUCH, IN FRONT OF HUGE-ASS TELEVISION TOO!”

    +++++++++++++++++++ Crap ++++++++++++++++++++++

    Just want to add that using a controller on PC doesn’t mean the game
    was designed to feel fluid using a controller, and you have to set your
    key bindings and memorize them for each game. Consoles are still a
    superior choice if you want to use a controller IMO.

    +++++++++++++++++++ Crap ++++++++++++++++++++++

  • Devilbot_anurag

    Man you know crap about pc :D have fun with your console but i would like to point out one thing now days the games are increasing more and more on consoles not becoz there are more gamers on it but becoz its not easy to play a pirated game on it and i support it…

    but you get the wrong idea like here

    ” If indeed true gaming is on PC, console gamers, by the millions, would have jumped on board already – but it’s simply not. PC gaming isn’t as popular as these jokers would have you believe.”

    its just a matter of monopoly

    and its good but people like you who say stuff like that for a pc…. hilarious cant stop laughing..

    i dont understand why you had to make a thread specially after

    i quote

    “but it’s irked me to a point of explosion. If your platform is better, there’s no need to make a case for it…”

    you made a case of it :D

    man seriously you have no idea what you are talking about and fyi have you really ever a played on a pc seriously rigged by a gamer for games purposes only not your “other stuffs…. bla bla that you can do on a android these days :D

  • derpina9873783

    Stupid console peasants everywhere.

  • Dan is Retarded

    Are you fucking retarded?
    Haven’t you read any of these posts?
    Fucking 12 year old brat who can’t afford anything as you don’t know how to save your money.

    I bought a PC in 2005 equivalent to a PS3 for around $700.
    Now this year, I did some upgrades for around $200 and I’m getting as much power as a PS6.

  • Popcoren Jognes

    Doesn’t want people expressing opinions that hurt his feelings.
    Rants about it, makes an article and cries. Feeding the trolls.
    The trolls come back and fuck his little ass.

    Tl;dr
    when trolls attack, let them be, or else they will fuck your little ass.

  • Paka Albakca

    Hai, take some of your time to google “Xinput” and “Directinput”

  • Makakaka

    mad about PC elitist
    Turns out he is a PS4 fanboy

  • wackjob

    No motion controllers for PC?
    Mind I say

    Razer Hydra.

  • Alakpak

    oh and a new controller exclusively for PC is coming with touchpads too. Steam Controller… :o *goosebumps

  • http://www.friv2friv3friv4.com/ friv 2 friv 3 friv 4

    I never argued the value of it. I do spend $50 a year and I get more in
    return for my PS3, Vita, and now PS4. I just wish they would come out
    with a multiple year discount.

  • MapRef41N93W

    Hahahah you look really bad in retrospect. The PS4 is indeed weaker than a two (or even 3) year old PC, and it’s games do in fact look much worse than Crysis 3 on a PC. CPU comparable to an AMD Athlon X2 from 2006, and GPU computing power comparable to an AMD 7850 (considered entry level card).

    Using Crysis 2 as a barometer for PC sales? HAHAHAHA, you do know that Crysis 2 was a console game right? Crysis 1 and 3 were games made for the PC, and Crysis 2 has a reputation for being a terrible looking, optimized, and playing game on the PC that was designed for consoles.

    Most played games in the world:
    1. League of Legends
    2. Dota 2
    3. World of Warcraft
    4. Call of Duty
    5. Starcraft 2
    6. Team Fortress 2
    Other notables: World of Tanks and Minecraft

    Notice anything about most of those games? Yeah they are PC games.

    PC gaming sales WAY up in 2013, console gaming sales WAYYYYY down for 3/4 quarters and a 4th quarter spike that only happens 1/7-8 years. Console AAAs bankrupting companies left and right with others barely able to claim profits on games that sell nearly half a million copies (Square Enix). PC mid sized/indie studios making huge profits on games that cost 1/50 as much to make.

    4k gaming already a reality on PC in early 2014 with new monitors coming out at a reasonable price tag. 4k gaming MIGHT be native on 9th gen consoles sometime in the 2020s and even then it will be just like the new consoles were they struggle to even push out 60 fps with all the settings set to low.

    I think we can see the clear winner here

  • MapRef41N93W

    Of course they did, they are retarded Germans like you are. PS4 BF4 is set to low settings to reach native 1080p. BF4 on a PC at low settings can be done with a 4-5 year old PC at 1080p.

  • shitty

    suck my cock console fanboy.. someone should burn all you console assholes maybe then it would be another golden age of pc

  • hobb

    i enjoy options to!!! i mean that the developers has to optimize games for many types of hardware when they make games for pc…

  • Jesus Plays PC Bitch

    You don’t get the fact that a console is a PC now. They’re both using the same architecture, meaning their hardware is pretty identical to PC’s. Maybe my PC I built could last 10 years but your $400 console won’t. However, I can CHOOSE if I want to upgrade. With a console you don’t get that choice. You have to let some greedy corporation do your thinking for you.

  • Lel

    This is a joke, you are kidding me… Go and L2how stuff works, then come back.

  • Greg Smith

    I have yet to see actual proof that any PC game looks better than a PS3 or PS4 exclusive. Until you can get me that, get the fuck off the internet.

  • Malus SuhnSolJashin

    I bought a PS3 Super Slim at $200 with 500GB and The Last of Us and Beyond Two Souls, in a store.

    Where can you get that equivalent hardware? Oh $500 or more you say? Well fuck that shit.

  • Your Neighborhood Geek

    You can get ancient graphics cards 4x more powerful than a PS3′s GPU on ebay for $30. Don’t believe me? Just search up “Radeon 4850.” Stick that thing in any desktop PC built in the last 5-8 years and you have a gaming machine vastly more powerful. (hint, you can find old desktops thrown out on sidewalks, or in dumps/ewaste centers)

    As for $500… it takes $480 to build a new PC comparable to the PS4. It takes less if you simply bought 2 old 4850′s. It takes $550 to build a PC twice as powerful. It takes $700-800 to double that number again. Spending more money on a PC gets you more performance, up to the point which you have a $3200 liquid-nitrogen cooled beast sporting 4 r9-290x in crossfire and performance numbers that would likely make even the PS5 look like a toaster. (22.4 tflops of raw performance, or 12.4x faster than the PS4, and a bigger exponential jump from the PS4 than the PS4 was from the PS3)

  • Gamer

    you’ve obviously never heard of steam, then. For under $12, you could have bought the Humble THQ bundle and Humble Origin bundle.

    Battlefield 3.

    Dead Space
    Dead Space 3
    Burnout Paradise: The Ultimate Box.
    Crysis 2 Maximum Edition.
    Medal of Honor.
    Mirror’s Edge.
    Command & Conquer: Red Alert 3- Uprising.
    Populous

    Darksiders.
    Metro 2033.

    Company of heroes + all expansions,
    Warhammer 40k: Dawn of War.
    Titan Quest.
    Saints Row 3.
    Red Faction: Armageddon.

    How much would you have had to pay for the multiplatform games on this list? How many years of PS+ would you have to wait for them to be free?

    Those two aren’t the only humble bundles released, either. You could’ve gotten FEAR 1,2, and 3 as well as Arkham Asylum and Arkham City for $5 total.

  • ps4fanboy

    The ps4 is stronger than some users of pc think. First of all unified gddr5 memory makes a diffrence. Cpu and gpu is on the same die making making it much faster than an pc with the normal bottlenecks. And yes you are free from updating drivers, virus, aimbots and all the crap from pc

  • dids

    I paid $360 total for my Pc. Lol basically I upgraded my mb and cpu in a combo deal for about $170, then I used my year old 7850 I got used for 100 bucks and a few dollars on a psu unit and I have a machine that can play any game so far on max settings. All you need is a little basic knowledge and anyone can build a gaming pc at minimal costs. I wouldn’t ever spend “thousands of dollars” at least at one time, on a pc. I like consoles only for the idea of taking a vacation and bringing it with me. Games are games you should play them to have fun. But in today’s world the Pc always has more potential for more performance. That’s just a fact

  • Sol Malus

    Well we got Battlefield 3 for free and Darksiders and Metro Last Light and Saints Row 2 and 3 and Warhammer 40k, one of them. And one of the Dead Space games. Fear and Arkham games are terrible. As well as CoH and MoH. We get Tomb Raider free this month, we had Outlast last month, and Don’t Starve the month before that.

  • Sol Malus

    So you can’t get a PC as powerful as the PS4 for $400 or less you’re saying? Yeah. Waste of money.

  • Lord Xantosh

    You don’t have to get! not you can’t get, 99% of people who build pc’s know this, eg, even with my 5yearold+ computer, here you go, just to shut you up, here is my computer, with the only upgrades it really needs. so i could spend the cost of your ps4 just in parts, but there is 3 ways to go,

    1st one, is for no overclocking (my current air cooler would be enough: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/37o1B 14 bucks over budget but this is going overkill, can drop extra card and get some more alcohol!

    2nd one: is for light oc’ing (would need better cooler, also this one has 2 options itself, 2x cheap gpu’s or 1x nicely priced gpu, most guides do tell the truth 1x good gpu is better than 2xcheap gpu’s: 2.1: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/37obt $12 over budget ohh noes end of the worlds yo!

    2.2: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/37ohY wow under budget again, how does this keep happening!

    and last but not lease the 3rd one, this is more aimed at people who love to hard overclock! (you don’t really need to do this for games)
    3: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/37omy now with this one, i went for a water cooler that i like the look and idea of, there are cheaper options out there but i like that one

    but all this pales in comparison to my point, i have just shown you many ways to upgrade a 5 year old system for close to PS4 budget, but you know whats beaut about this, i can install pc games from nearly 30 years ago and they still work, but you can’t even put in your console’s last generation game discs and play them, shit i still have RETURN TO ZORK lying around here somewhere, and i have TES3: Morrowind, with the MGSO installed! so not only can we UPGRADE pc’s for cheaper but they also have way more options, what did you do, sold your old ps3 for like 50 and bought a ps4, either that or you kept it for “nostalgia”

  • http://www.hypertiz/deviantart.com Matthew James Gargan

    ” YOU CAN PLAY VIDEO GAMES ON YOUR PC WITH A CONTROLLER, ON A COUCH, IN FRONT OF HUGE-ASS TELEVISION TOO!”

    May naive console gamers get mind fucked, i may be a console gamer but really.. ALL sides have massive and small advantages :)

  • http://www.hypertiz/deviantart.com Matthew James Gargan

    like L4D2? i cant remeber its been while gaming on pc though or even consoles i only do on weekends due to year 12 :P

  • http://www.hypertiz/deviantart.com Matthew James Gargan

    PC Ports do suck but i guess you guys have modders and hackers to fix the issues though… *ponders*

  • http://www.hypertiz/deviantart.com Matthew James Gargan

    “..before an upgrade is needed at the rate these games are increasing in quality and size.” Holy… PS3 Cod Ghosts (Rounded off) 10 GB and Next Gen PS4 is (Rounded off) 30 GB MAY GOD HELP US ALL :P (definetly disc based games are more handy although : hhhmm…) so in what the ‘future future’ we will have 1 terabyte games… holy mother of god…

  • http://www.hypertiz/deviantart.com Matthew James Gargan

    PC is intended for 60fps and consoles 30fps? i assume that may be why the graphics is ‘shit graphics’ and is ‘ultra’ on the ps4? please correct me please (no sarcasm or anger just curiosity here…)

  • http://www.hypertiz/deviantart.com Matthew James Gargan

    PC requires min 3 GB to run The Walking Dead? Bitch plz i can run on my Aspire One Netbook that has
    Intel HD Graphics Cerelon (R) 1.2 GHz (dual?) (HD Graphics? oh the irony…)
    2 GB Ram
    (sorry i dont really know the specs much but)
    LOL wtf is this witch craft hahaha…. XD

  • http://www.hypertiz/deviantart.com Matthew James Gargan

    considering he is in high school no shit… his time is pretty much sucked away im in year 12 but seriously…

  • http://www.hypertiz/deviantart.com Matthew James Gargan

    i guess its sounds simple considering i never built a pc before but it sounds like more easier than doing a 1000 piece puzzle then what ppl would have over generalised like this “Go back to school, kid. Tell us when you finally get your degree in computer science.” i hate when ppl just get pissed of and say stupid things…

  • http://www.hypertiz/deviantart.com Matthew James Gargan

    yep your post is correct. as a guy once said “we are the CONSUMERS not DEVELOPERS”

  • http://www.hypertiz/deviantart.com Matthew James Gargan

    but “upgrading it frequently” i guess isnt as frequently as you like the to think tbh…

  • http://www.hypertiz/deviantart.com Matthew James Gargan

    “If you didn’t give a crap, you wouldn’t be commenting.” oh the truth and logic hurts XD

  • Savage

    get real dude.. A $700 pc is garbage.. You’re obviously trolling.. Oh and btw PC gaming controllers are garbage.. Console controllers > PC controllers.

  • Savage

    LOL silly PC elitist trying to say a $400 pc is close to a ps4.. What a joke.. Quit trolling kid.. $400 pc’s can’t even play world of warcraft on medium settings.. Now go cry in the corner.