Thirsty Conversations: Should Violence In Games Be Nerfed?

Even if you’re not an American, the tragic incident that occurred at a School in Connecticut on Friday, as a young, apparently confused man rampaged through an elementary school, must have brought sadness and despair to you.

Adam Lanza, age 20, killed 26 people on Friday, December 14th, 20 of them being children ages 5-10, and left a nation and even the world in a state of gloom.  Some have said it’s time that we as a nation start talking seriously about changing our culture of violence to help steer a young generation on a more civil course. Others have said that gun control is the problem, and we should move fast to pass legislation in an effort to limit the amount of weapons on our streets, and some have called for movie makers and videogame developers to lesson the amount of violence found in there work.

In almost every article I read about the the mass-murder, comments about videogames and movies dominated the discuss, so I thought It’d be a good thing to have a conversation about the influence of violence in movies and videogames on the American culture.

Should games be tamed? Is there too much violence in American entertainment? Is there even a connection at all?

Share your thoughts.

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30 Comments on "Thirsty Conversations: Should Violence In Games Be Nerfed?"

  1. Wolf1888 December 16, 2012 at 9:27 pm -

    It wont change anything, that dude was just god damn crazy, out of his mind. Reducing violence in entertainment is not going to help, it won’t make f’ed up people magically forget that they can do horrible things.

    If anything, violence keeps them away from doing these terrible things. It gives them that violence dose they seem to need.

  2. narwall14 December 16, 2012 at 9:32 pm -

    Not to sound like a cold bastard but i just stopped caring after hearing people die every day but on the video game issue ,no they are just games not real life no game can produce that.

  3. SHADOWBOXER December 16, 2012 at 9:47 pm -

    I dont think so, people have to take responsibilities of their own actions. Not just point and blame something so silly. It was the guns and his actions that killed , not movies and video games.

  4. Wolf1888 December 16, 2012 at 11:36 pm -

    And anyway, video games and movies NEVER show violence on kids, it’s always between adults or animals. So we can’t really relate the kind of things that happened 3 days ago to the violence in entertainment.
    If some sort of media incited him to go in a school and kill as many kids as possible, it’s not from video games.

    If the american entertainment really was the cause of all this, the guy would’ve killed adults, not kids. (Don’t get me wrong, such actions are still f’ing nuts, but you get my point)

  5. nick December 17, 2012 at 4:35 am -

    Of course not. After reading stories about it apparently the kid was very quiet and always bullied in school.
    Obviously one day he snapped and said that’s it revenge time. A friend of mine at school was the same, he was constantly bullied at school. He’s now in the bikie gang, doing time for armed robbery and other stuff.
    Story short maybe we need to crack down at schools and maybe we need to crack down on weapons.
    Stop blaming things your using to babysit your kids when you can’t be stuffed doing so.
    People need to start taking responsibility for their actions and family.
    Enough of blaming scapegoats!

  6. Ghost250 December 17, 2012 at 4:47 am -

    it doesn’t matter if violence in games got nerfed. because the media would try to blame other mediums. example: remember before when they blamed rock music (particularly Judas priest) when those two teens committed suicide. the media claimed that there was subliminal messages in one of Judas priest songs saying “Do It”. there was this whole fiasco where they took the band to court. then they played the record in front of the band and the jury and they couldn’t hear no subliminals at all. it has nothing to do with mediums of entertainment, its society themselves. to be perfectly honest its the parents fault for owing multiple weapons around a person with a mental disorder such as OCD. im not saying that what Adam Lanza did was not wrong. but the parent is also equally to blame though. for owning such items around a person who basically can snap at any minute

  7. foxton December 17, 2012 at 5:47 am -

    this was a horrific tragedy. And my thoughts go out to the kids family. The kids were all aged 6 or 7 and he killed 27 in total as he killed his mother too. This has nothing to do with violence in video games, but i do feel that a lot of this is down to your ridiculously liberal gun laws. It is absolutely crazy how easy it is to get a gun over there. I completely disagree with your theory that everytone has a right to bear arms, for the sake of your children you need to do something about your gun laws now.

  8. Ghost250 December 17, 2012 at 6:48 am -

    @foxton you don’t have to agree with the right to bears. which is your opinion, but you don’t even live in this country so in to be perfectly honest its none of your concern anyway.

    The Right To Bear Arms is the only line of defense we as americans have to protect us from the government. I’m sorry but if we lost that we are prone to lose other rights as well. hell the infection of our disgusting government is allowing any police official in arizona to arrest anyone they think is illegal to this country. me i come from a mexican heritage, in arizona is predominantly more hispanics than any other race there. so if i was to visit the police can arrest me. if they suspect im not of the country. which has happened before on numerous occasions.

    BTW changing a law is not gonna change the fact that anyone can access a gun across the world. its just the means of getting it will be different. sorry but as an american i will not support the changing or blocking of the right to bear arms. i feel for the children but in actuality its more the mothers fault for having guns around someone who has a mental disorder. which imo makes her a very stupid person. she didn’t deserve to die but she was very stupid.

  9. Ernice Gilbert December 17, 2012 at 7:09 am -

    I think I should jump in here. I believe that some regulation is needed, especially with certain weapons. There’s no reason why ordinary civilians should have access to military grade weapons, and there’s no reason to own multiple weapons unless you’re hunter, or business owner. I also think that there are too many weapons on the street, and it’s also too easy to get one. In many areas, all you need is an ID – no background check, nothing. Just ID, and that’s ridiculous.
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    Yes, the mother shouldn’t have the weapons laying around, but this tragedy speaks to the broader issue of gun control, and quite honestly, America is in desperate need of it.
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    In the past 48hrs, many more have died by gun violence across the U.S. and overall, yearly, 12,000 people die from guns in America. You can’t deny, Ghost, that there’s a big problem that needs to be fixed.

  10. Ghost250 December 17, 2012 at 7:24 am -

    @ernice i agree with regulation, like checking a persons background to see if they are fit to own a gun i can totally get behind a regulation like that. but banning of the right to bear arms i do not. which quite honestly is what its starting to snowball into, perpetuated by the media of course. now as far as ordinary civilians having access to military grade weapons. i can’t say we should totally lose the right to own them. hmm id say that if there could be a regulation where if your over 21 and haven’t had felon or misdemeanor at all. then you can own military grade licensed guns. id say that would be pretty reasonable regulation. i don’t know what do you think.

  11. Ernice Gilbert December 17, 2012 at 7:30 am -

    @Ghost: Military grade weapons should stay in the hands of Army men and women, and not civilians. The guns that are not military grade are more than capable of dealing a fatal blow with just one shot. I agree with you that talk about banning the right to bear arms is ludicrous, and will not make it far. We’ll see legislation of some kind, but it won’t be as far-reaching (rightfully so), as some would hope.
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    But yes, something must be done to help curb this trend, because criminals like Lanza are becoming more brazen by the day.

  12. Ghost250 December 17, 2012 at 7:36 am -

    @erince well whatever happens just as long as it doesn’t affect our right to bear arms then i can get behind it.

  13. Ernice Gilbert December 17, 2012 at 7:39 am -

    @Ghost: Agreed.

  14. Ernice Gilbert December 17, 2012 at 7:45 am -

    On the nerfing games issue though, I think it’s nonsense. No one even knows if Lanza played vidoegames, furthermore, like Wolf said, there’s no correlation with what he did and videogames. Videogames, not one I can think of, advocate the killing of children, far less those in an elementary setting.
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    The guy was sick – he killed his own mother! What needs to happen is a myriad of things: First, some form of gun control to keep weapons out the hands of people like Lanza. Second, making sure that people who struggle socially, and have personality disorders, get the treatment and help they deserve. Third, we as a people need to be more civil and fourth, the American government is disfunctional (Congress), and needs a serious reboot or else wealthy people, those who care about nothing but their bottomline, will incessantly determine what becomes law in this country.

  15. nick December 17, 2012 at 10:00 am -

    ill never forget the day i first went to the states and my father told me hey lets go inside and have a look at the guns they have.
    i just started laughing and said oh come on they dont see guns there.
    so he grabbed me and dragged me to the back of the store and there they were out in the open for a 5 year old to see.
    cant believe how open and available they are, here only gun shops are allowed to stock them and there bordered up so people cant just look in and see them.
    i will never ever understand you have to be 21 to drink, but only 18 to own a gun.
    all ill say is ill take a drunk guy over a guy with a gun any day of the week!

  16. foxton December 17, 2012 at 10:40 am -

    @ghost i no you will say i know nothing because im not even in your country but i think your being silly. And to say its none of my concern is a bit harsh too. What happened in Afghanistan and Iraq wasn’t in your country so why should it concern America?! I think you could learn a lot from the British on this. Our police dont even carry guns! I no i will never change your attitude but you just need to look at your murder rate and gun crimes per head., compared to us, who are equally just as advanced and developed with the same cultural beliefs. Its no coincidence that your gun murder rates is so much higher than ours. In 1996 we had a similar school massacre in Dumblane (google it) This led to drastic changes in gun control and security in schools. Following this tragedy the following year it was made private ownership of guns were made illegal. We have not had another school massacre since, coincidence i think this is not.
    I no the vast majority of people use guns safely and those who intend to use guns for crime will not hand them in, but simply by removing guns off the street will drastically reduce the chances of these mentally disturbed people getting hold of them and carry such atrocities. I know this is falling on deaf ears because of your in faction with guns but i honestly think the time has now come for you to change your laws about it. What gives you the right to bear arms but us to not? Less guns in society means less deaths and atrocities, it really is as simple as that. I firmly belief that obama and other high political leaders have had enough of these atrocities and i think that finally something will change towards you horrifically liberal attitude towards guns. You try and make it acceptable by saying well if someone else has a gun, then i need a gun too to protect myself. Well i think that is just naive. I know there are far too many guns in your society to change that but if guns were kept out of the house at license shooting alleys for example i guarantee you your kids will be a hell of a lot safer!

  17. Ghost250 December 17, 2012 at 11:26 am -

    @foxton never said you knew nothing and i never said to not be concerned about violence. i said not to be concerned with our “Laws” because you don’t live here. i never said anything about afghan or iraq laws so i don’t see how that is of any correlation. so really stop twisting my words around. What gives us the right to bear arms is the bill of rights. our country fought for freedom to break away from the british empire. an tone the reasons for the law was to insure the people were safe in case the american government decided to go against the people in the future. the Right to bear arms was created. now as far as your countries right to bear arms goes, its not really our problem. maybe you should have fought for that right maybe you didn’t want too. whatever the case it has nothing to do with america. btw its not liberal its logical, how many times have governments done horrific things to people of their countries? its happen so many times and its still going on today. personally your the one being naive. i think in a more broad way im not thinking how taking away guns will affect me, im thinking on how it would affect america as a whole. btw like said before nothing is gonna stop people from getting guns whether it be legally or illegally. id personally rather have it legally while having stricter regulations than having morons with illegal weapons using them against society and they without any means to defend themselves just because one guy overseas thinks that banning guns in america is the end all be all of violence. now its not like im making it seem like somhow america is just the way more advanced country than yours is because thats not what im saying. its just our country was built on totally different merits. like i said you don’t have to agree with it but its really none of you concern. one thing you have to learn when speaking about politics is to never take it to heart, same thing when talking about religion. im done you have your opinion, i have mine leave it at that. im not here on this site to rant on about this kind stuff.

  18. foxton December 17, 2012 at 12:29 pm -

    fair enough, couldnt agree more with you on your opinion and my opinion, they are totally different, and that is why the attitiudes of us are totally different because we hail from different countries. I kinda think youve answered your own argument though. Thanks for the history lesson, i have learnt that your right to Bare arms comes from when you decided to break away from our Empire. Exactly thats hundreds of years ago,do you not think, the times, society, people, attiitudes and more imprtantly the guns themselves have changed since then and therefore this might needs revising??!! You also say that basically you need this right incase your government does horrific things to you, Do you honestly think “your hugely powerful and technologically advanced” country would do that to its own people? or do you honestly think you would vote someone in capable of doing that? or do you think your gun will protect you from a tank, missle or bomb that the government would drop?!
    All im saying is that your gun laws need to change. Something that Me you and Ernice have all mentioned. The extent of these changes are what we clearly disagree on. Agreed this isnt the place to discuss this topic, but this episode is just more proof that you gun laws are hugely inadequate and your obsession with guns is spiralling out of control. I never said that banning guns would be the end of all violence did i? im saying more restriction and tougher licensing would reduce gun crime, yeah maybe not gang and and drug related crime but these types of horrific crimes and jealous partners killing ex lovers etc would all but be stopped. As your younger generations grow up in a world without guns the attitude and society towards guns and gun culture would change. Believe me we have been through it and i gurantee you there is not a westernised country on this earth that are not impressed with our gun laws and attiude towards guns and how hard it is to go about obtaining them. No its not really my concern, you dumb Americans can carry on killing eachothers children simply because you believe you have a right to have guns. It doesnt affect me, Seeing these types of tragedies on tv are distressing regardless of what counrty you live in and i merely answered Ernices “Thirsty Conversation” so i have just as much right to express my opinion on this matter than you do.

  19. benzo December 17, 2012 at 1:15 pm -

    Violent video games should not be “nerfed”. I am a grown man and I enjoy games with violence in them, just like I enjoy a good action scene in a movie, a wonderfully written book with epic battles,and punisher comic books. The issue with those types of media is that parents allow children access to these things well before the age limits put for purchase. 11,12, hell even 9 years olds are playing COD and Gears. Their parents claim that they understand that games are fiction…UH DUH!!!! There are no locust or future wars being waged in our backyard. Like I tell my son, the issue is not fact versus reality in the game, but the issue of the violence itself. Kids are becoming numb to the violence and becoming obsessed with weapons. This is not healthy for any child in my opinion. My son is not allowed to play any M rated game. T for Teen is the most he is allowed to play and I sit there with him for his gaming sessions whenever possible. Parents need to pay heed to warnings and ratings for all types of media. Parental responsibility goes beyond being the “cool” parent or keeping their kids from crying. Sometimes to be a good parent you have to be the bad guy. But thats the role you signed up for when you bring a new life into this world. Stable homes, involved parents, attention to detail, and love are needed to help the US mend and prevent further tragedies from happening. Not nerfing games, banning guns, or arming everyone to the teeth. END TRANSMISSION

  20. Ghost250 December 17, 2012 at 1:18 pm -

    @foxton yup mmmm hmmmm yes we’re all dumb americans since one guy with a metal disorder decided shoot up school full of kids. yup that totally reflects what every american is like. we just go around shooting children because we want to. your fucking moron guy but nice generalization. say what you want but keep your discrimination of people of america to yourself.

  21. foxton December 17, 2012 at 3:04 pm -

    ha ha ok ghost. its not just one mental guy tho is it, this is one of many.
    that guy who did it at the batman premier
    Covina LA
    Omaha shopping mall
    Vrginia Tech
    Red Lake high school Minnesota
    Columbine
    Killeen Texas
    and god knows how many others.
    Again you have kinda answered your own arguments, with guns so readily available in your country these mental idiots you talk of will find it easy to get hold of guns to do this type of thing. remove the guns and these people wont have acess to them! its not fucking rocket science is it!!

    I have just finished watching the 6 o clock news and ive just seen Obama say how can we continue to let this happen? things have to change. so its not just one guy from overseas who thinks this is it, its your own fucking president!. Ok maybe my “dumb” comment was a gneralisation but i find it extremely hard to believe that you cant see that these problems would not be so frequent if you kerbed your fascination with guns and heavily restricted them. All you need to do is look at most of the european countries to see that. If it were not for your horrifically outdated right to bare arms your country would not be in this mess! Dislike me all i like i really aint bothered, but just because we are so strong minded and opinionated doesnt mean im a fucking moron. I havent been personal to you once so no need to be like that with me just because i gave my opinion on a thread and you didnt agree with it.

  22. narwall14 December 18, 2012 at 12:07 am -

    remove the guns and we will be a weak country imo we should not bring world issues onto a game site it just makes things go to hell

  23. Ghost250 December 18, 2012 at 12:20 am -

    foxton you just discriminated everyone of my country as people who are mental that kill children how in the hell is that not personal?

  24. foxton December 18, 2012 at 10:32 am -

    ha ha no i did not! please quote where i said all of your country are mental and kill children?! i said every country has people with mental issues but gun massacres are more likely in your country than my country simply becuase your gun laws are ridiuculously out of date and far too liberal. I also see that you have totally ignored my logical answers to the 2 arguments you gave as to why you should have guns. but yeah this is a gaming site, not a ploitical debating site as to wether America needs to changes its gun laws. Going by the news were hearing from over here, (wether it is more r less biased i dont no) but it sounds like changes to american gun laws is inevitable anyway.

  25. Ghost250 December 18, 2012 at 11:07 am -

    @foxton “you dumb Americans can carry on killing eachothers children simply because you believe you have a right to have guns” you said that in present tense as if all americans are metal who shoot and kill children. plus i’m not going to answer your two arguments because already explained my stance in the previous comments. nothing you say is gonna change stance on the right to bear arms. put it to you this way its like a democrat and republican trying to agree to something most of the time it just doesn’t work. sure maybe once in blue moon the’ll actually have a mutual understanding but that happening is far and few in between. so its whatever let it go…

  26. foxton December 19, 2012 at 6:17 am -

    it was let go ages ago, oh and its mental, not metal. Your gun laws will change after this and we both know that.

  27. Ghost250 December 19, 2012 at 6:21 am -

    XD

    oh Wowwwww…… I had “one” grammatical error, good come back moron.

  28. foxton December 19, 2012 at 7:33 am -

    ha ha i think you called it metal more than once. THis is getting beyond a joke. Im so sorry you dont like me or agree with any of my statements. Now lets just get back to gaming shall we?!

  29. foxton December 19, 2012 at 7:41 am -

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-20782805
    good on ya Obama for actually trying to tackle this. at least its a start…

  30. Ghost250 December 19, 2012 at 7:43 am -

    i was talking about my previous comment, but in that case i could say the same for you, you misspelled multiple words. but your right this is of no correlation, just thought id point out your hypocrisy. btw i can’t like someone i don’t even know. but i sure as hell don’t agree with you. but yeah get back to gaming.

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